One Of The Artifacts With Glyphs From The Box
One Of The Artifacts With Glyphs From The Box
FYI, there are actually a couple ways to read this post's title...
Operation Essex Edgar Allan Wright Hank Johnson H. Richard Loeb Linda B Andrew Krug
Project Isthmus and November Lima Team Up For Some Special Missions, With Prizes! (Day 4 / Release 4 Thread)
Project Isthmus and November Lima Team Up For Some Special Missions, With Prizes! (Day 4 / Release 4 Thread) Continuing the exciting new mission contest series we started with Linda B and Ethan Lepouttre earlier in the week as they tour NL-1331 through many great cities, on their way to the Orlando anomaly! This mission series commemorates the four Obsidian Artifact glyph images that the Project Isthmus team posted; now that we have reached the final glyph we released, this will be the final mission in this particular series. The rules are simple: 1) The day of the NL event you will find a new mission available in your city (close to the NL venue) 2) Be first (or one of the first) to complete that mission and learn it's pass phrase 3) Return here and make a comment that includes your in-game agent name, and the pass phrase If you are quick enough, you will qualify for a first place prize to be given to you in person by Linda and Ethan at the NL event! (Yes, you must be presen...
That is N'Zeer
ReplyDeleteOk, so after doing some checking, I noticed one of the other artifacts had the 'together' glyph on it. To me, there's no mistaking it: This is the glyph for the N'zeer.
ReplyDeleteIs it possible that some Artifacts don't have Glyphs on them?
I'd say it also confirms a rotating orientation. We ought to be able to determine at least one intended sequence.
ReplyDelete"a couple" meaning more than one, not literally two ;-) Mustafa Said
ReplyDeleteIs that the red hair of the Acolyte, tied around the artifact?
ReplyDeleteMr Sean Parde nope. That is rope made with henequen fiber
ReplyDeleteSo... What's on the other side of that arrow?
ReplyDeleteone of the artifacts with glyphs
ReplyDelete"so it's possible that other artifacts without glyphs exist"
one of the artifacts with glyphs from the box
"maybe there are glyphs not only on the artifacts"
Never seen the N'zeer Glyph before
ReplyDeleteAchim S. I really like the extrapolation of the options on the title... there are still more ;-)
ReplyDeleteone of the artifacts with glyphs from the box
ReplyDelete"are there artifacts outside the box?"
Achim S. still more ways to read it... keep going!...
ReplyDeleteQuite possibly one on the box on a side not pictured
ReplyDeleteMel Forrest in the initial box photo, all angles of the box are shown. Possibly not some inner flap ones? But essentially all box photos are available.
ReplyDeleteone of the artifacts with glyphs from the box
ReplyDelete"we know that there are even more than one glyph"
one of the artifacts with glyphs from the box
"Pandora's Box, Harlan's Box...how many exist?"
Achim S. still more... (I'm impressed with how many you've came up with too BTW!)
ReplyDeleteHere is another clue on the title: Figure out the multiple meanings to the title.
ReplyDeleteMatt Stevenson but not the bottom. ;P
ReplyDeleteAnd another meaning might be that one, if not more, artifacts may have more than one glyph on it.
ReplyDeleteAnd you still haven't shown the cloth(?) that was tied with the rope .Unless I missed it. What is on it?
Mel Forrest do you mean "black cloth" from blurry hand photo? Which cloth...?
ReplyDeleteWhat if "you" explained my second clue here, the one in the above reply, to someone who English was not their primary language?
ReplyDeleteWhy are all the letters of the title capitalized though? 😐
ReplyDeleteWakuan complained when he saw a picture of bearded Bodhidharma: "Why hasn't that fellow a beard?"
ReplyDeleteFellow, artifact: beard, glyph
Bacon Ator Mainly because I wanted to call attention to the fact its not just a comment on the post.
ReplyDeleteartifact
ReplyDelete1.
any object made by human beings, especially with a view to subsequent use.
2.
a handmade object, as a tool, or the remains of one, as a shard of pottery, characteristic of an earlier time or cultural stage, especially such an object found at an archaeological excavation.
glyph
1.
a pictograph or hieroglyph.
2.
a sculptured figure or relief carving.
This sentence from the top headline could have more than one meaning by the key words artifact and glyph.
For Example:
One Of The Tools With Hieroglyphs From The Box
well obviously there's an arrangement of the components we haven't made yet
ReplyDeleteit's the one thing we're missing
yet it's real important to the anomaly
Typhoon Jim My ears are perked up on this comment of yours...
ReplyDeleteIn my second clue, the first reply I have here as a clue. Who am I talking to? And how is that explained when its taught in school?
ReplyDeleteAre we to maybe re-arrange the order of the words?
ReplyDeleteI'm questioning if there are objects other than these arrow heads in the box. Do these objects, if they exist, have more glyphs? Do the arrow heads all have glyphs? Do they have more than one glyph? Are there other object involved here that do not come from the box and, if so, do they include glyphs?
ReplyDeleteShould we be thinking "outside the box" as it were?
Hmm. You didn't happen to take other "glyphs from the box" and apply them to object that had no glyphs, did you?
Ambiguity within ambiguity.
Addition: what was under the false floor? Its existence must be significant and it was shown in the release of pictures of the box.
Ivan Heffner there was nothing under the false floor. I love all the discussion and theories/questions, and I realize its very broad and open ended. I commented on the one thats perked my ears the most, and posted a couple follow up clues... those would be the ones to focus on to narrow down the scope. You'll get at least one or two big unknowns (IMHO) by figuring it out.
ReplyDeleteSome brainstorming
ReplyDeleteTogether
N'zeer
"a couple" -- more than two
"you" -- second person, singular or plural, but we've already been talking plurality. The one reading/listening is being addressed as a part of the audience. The glyphs are a message to…us, humans?
Who's missing? Shaper. Human. Self.
These arrow tips are tied together in a sequence. Is it a continuous 13-glyph sequence? Presumably not, as one of the implications of "with glyphs" is that there is also "without glyphs." Then a question to ask may be "how many sentences or phrases are created?"
The orientation of the glyphs vary between arrows. Do they all point towards the center? Would it matter if they don't?
"with glyphs" -- There are two sides to these arrows. Are there two glyphs per arrow, at least for some of them? How do the obverse/reverse relate to one another?
Reaching further:
The Obsidian logo
Thirteen "arrows" pointing in at three triangles.
The colors are the inverse of ENL/RES faction colors. Do the arrows represent the Shapers (consider their glyph)? Would that make the triangles the N'zeer? The N'zeer being contained/constrained by the Shapers?
Perhaps much of this is unrelated, but there have been strange links made that did not seem related at the time, but in retrospect become clear.
Matt Stevenson (straight) from the box = directly?
ReplyDeletesorry, my english isn't very well
So, maybe there are artifacts with glyphs on it directly and other artifacts on which the glyphs were afterwards written on. Maybe copies of the origin.
Together Abandon N'Zeer?
ReplyDeleteMatt Stevenson Edgar Allan Wright John Hanke
Of the artifacts with glyphs one from the box
ReplyDeleteMel Forrest The bottom was shown, outside:
ReplyDeletehttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9U7P1gg0EfY/VtMdLS8pbdI/AAAAAAAAHJ4/cupUcDt_w6kOjdYmzKbgQwvZ3qg7s3cFw/w1555-h1166-no/SAM_2780.JPG
Inside:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-BK1hCqz2Z3A/VtMdH8d6XhI/AAAAAAAAHJ4/RpwHO_TUkqUcSQouehJZIn0slAR_RKixw/w1555-h1166-no/SAM_2772.JPG
Is there another box?
ReplyDeleteSo how many artifacts from the box have no glyphs? If the twine is original and thus reveals sequence then empty points could imply multiple distinct series to achieve different results when applying them to the shield.
ReplyDeleteMike Wissinger A couple different times now you've touched on something - but its almost a red herring for me to point this out.
ReplyDeleteIf you figure out what I mean by my couple clue comments in this thread, it will give you an overlay that reveals the mechanics of how to solve the clue. (Phrased another way - it does not seem like the clue is placed as everyone is expecting.)
ReplyDeleteOne of the artifacts, with glyphs, from the box. You say this is one artifact, and that is contains glyphS. As in plural. More than one.
ReplyDeleteMatt StevensonI went back through all the picture and saw where I had not looked closely enough.
ReplyDeleteIs it possible that that artifact, pictured, has two glyphs on it?
Are the glyphs are part of one glyph? Or a larger key? If you face the arrowheads all inwards, it would look highly similar to the Obsidian image.
ReplyDeleteAlthough I do think there is a whole separate set of discussions surrounding multiple artifacts/boxes/state of being inside or outside/state of having or not having glyphs/multiple glyphs, and so on... none of that is the extra information being presented to you in addition to the picture.
ReplyDeleteThere is another string with some pieces (the artifact)?
ReplyDeleteRepeating the other clues in this thread:
ReplyDelete11:45 AM
Here is another clue on the title: Figure out the multiple meanings to the title.
12:46 PM
What if "you" explained my second clue here, the one in the above reply, to someone who English was not their primary language?
1:17 PM
In my second clue, the first reply I have here as a clue. Who am I talking to? And how is that explained when its taught in school?
7:22 PM
If you figure out what I mean by my couple clue comments in this thread, it will give you an overlay that reveals the mechanics of how to solve the clue. (Phrased another way - it does not seem like the clue is placed as everyone is expecting.)
7:40 PM
Although I do think there is a whole separate set of discussions surrounding multiple artifacts/boxes/state of being inside or outside/state of having or not having glyphs/multiple glyphs, and so on... none of that is the extra information being presented to you in addition to the picture.
Matt Stevenson your last comment throws my thought process on this out the window. So lets go with this, its been assumed that theres more that one artifact in the box, 12 or 13 to be exact. We have assumed that there is a message and possibly each piece has a glyph. But weve assumed its a string of glyphs forming one message...... And going off the title of this post i want to say that like the title, they glyphs dont have just one meaning or sentence. That the glyphs or artifacts have multiple messages or meanings depending on how they are arranged and maybe they change with different peoples interpretations.
ReplyDeleteAnd maybe it isnt even a string.... Idk im going to just take off with this and sound like an idiot so just bare with me and we will see how far off i can go
ReplyDeleteIshira Tsubasa you, Mike Wissinger , and Typhoon Jim are sure getting pretty close on how you would in fact use this other piece of information that is here. :D
ReplyDeleteMatt Stevenson you know how to tease a girl, i was just writing more lol
ReplyDeleteive thought for awhile now What are the arrows pointing towards? And how does it relate to the Anomaly. Well obviously the 'symbol', badge, whatever for this anomaly has arrows pointing to three specific things within a circle. Maybe the artifacts are suppose to do this, and the message is fluid like i implied before.
ReplyDeleteMatt Stevenson is the N"Zeer glyph the first in the string, or is it the last?
ReplyDeleteSo the message isnt straight forward. It can be taken many ways.... Maybe differently between factions? Or maybe its a message for both factions.....
ReplyDeleteMel Forrest red hot - can you elaborate just a small amount more on your thoughts here?
ReplyDelete"Who am I talking to? And how is that explained when its taught in school?"
ReplyDeleteAre you talking to the N'zeer? And would it be consider negotiations ?
Ishira Tsubasa no, more mechanical still
ReplyDeleteAnother example of it: Stop doing that! (Who am I talking to?)
Matt im going to start picking apart the words you use when directing us lol
ReplyDeleteA child.
ReplyDeletePart of the original clue is the word "one." One could mean one of many or one as in first.
ReplyDeleteAchim S. had the right idea there.
ReplyDeleteMechanical-
1. working or produced by machines or machinery.
"a mechanical device"
2.
(of a person or action) not having or showing thought or spontaneity; automatic.
so an automatic response.... something without thought? Maybe like when we are teaching children of war we only teach our side and very little of the others.
Nzeer is the first...of the artifacts with a glyph in the box. The first of the message. The first in the string of glyphs.
ReplyDeleteMel Forrest this is the right answer, well done! This is (position) one of the artifacts. H. Richard Loeb Edgar Allan Wright Hank Johnson Mustafa Said Andrew Krug Linda B
ReplyDeleteThat means that "together" is last.
ReplyDeleteWhat I was trying to say with the clues was it was (You) who is addressed in those. IE. (You) stop doing that! The unsaid word here was "number" or "position". As in someone was reading it off a list - "(number) ONE - of the artifacts with glyphs from the box
ReplyDeleteGood job Mel Forrest!
ReplyDeleteAwesome Mel Forrest !!
ReplyDeleteBegin strong
ReplyDeleteI'm wondering if the "artifacts with no glyph" (in case they do exist) follow the same pattern as this: https://plus.google.com/+Ingress/posts/F2ckKTYZ1oc
ReplyDeleteI'm guessing there are a few more artifacts (13) with or without glyph on them. Are they part of a pendant to be wear by someone? Are they a message to tell us what to do? The sequence or "sting" will be left to the "chosen one" do decide. One way, the N'zeer sheild is activated. The other, Shapers still helps us. Maybe not even all the artifacts are arrow heads. Edit: speaking of the #Obsidian logo, are Hank, Jahan and the acolyte representing the 3 "triangles" in the middle?
ReplyDeleteThe artifacts or tools inside a box are used for realize a work with a purpose.
ReplyDeleteAlso a coffin can be considered a box.
You give the first phrase of a poem or a guideline for the Obsidian shield.
Matt Stevenson thanks for the awesome gear code!
ReplyDeleteMel Forrest thank YOU for your participation in this puzzle yesterday. Not only did you secure more info for all the Investigators to see that will come out later today, you also got some in game goodies. Thanks again!
ReplyDeleteMatt Stevenson well I'm ready for the next challenge you throw at us
ReplyDeleteMel Forrest :-D
ReplyDeleteAgreed! Im itching for another challenge
ReplyDeleteLol more challenges
ReplyDeleteMustafa Said challenges are fun!! its good to work our brains this way
ReplyDeleteThis has been really fun. Give us a little time to get some more organization done on all this. Also, if this stuff is appealing - be sure to comment on Jennifer Brozek s post here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JenniferBrozek/posts/FpXzJe5nUAu
ReplyDeleteThe glyphs so far read: "Together abandon N'zeer"
ReplyDeleteWell yes and no. It's "N'Zeer something something abandon something something together." (Pieced together by previous pictures)
ReplyDeleteWe just don't know yet how many somethings there are or where their placement is on the string.
True we don't know for certain the order but "together" is either first or last being it is at an end of the string and it would make more sense to display them in some order than to display them randomly as all this stuff is based around puzzles.
ReplyDeleteFrom the pictures provided I think they are in the correct order particularly as they are forming a mostly coherent sentence.
Also I know this isn't it. I estimate from one of the pictures in the second set that there are roughly eight arrow heads.
ReplyDeleteMatt Stevenson I just noticed something a little off about this particular glyph when compared to the others that you have shown us. This one is tilted to the left where the others aren"t. It's not like they didn't have room
ReplyDeleteMight be of some significance?
So, one, of the artfacts in the box. Artfacts is plural so more artifacts in the box. It's the first one. So, N'zeer is the first word. I'm sure I'm a little behind on all this....
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